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July 04, 2009

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Mark

Functional Hyper-Calvinism? What does that mean? Calvinism is the doctrines of John Calvin, and the system of following them, normally called the five points: original sin or total depravity, election or predestination, particular redemption, effectual calling, and the perseverance of the saints. Hyper means they are excessively adherent to those doctrines, isn't that good? And functional means it is serving the purpose for which it is designed and is operating. So wouldn't that make "functional hyper-Calvinism" the excessive adherents to the doctrines of John Calvin in the way is was designed to operate.

So if John Calvin's doctrines are correct, and people are adhering to them in an excessive manner how it was designed, the logical extreme, isn't that better than some of the alternatives.

Functional hypo-Calvinism
Functional Calvinism
Dis-functional hyper-Calvinism
Dis-functional hypo-Calvinism
Dis-functional Calvinism

Though I am unsure if Calvinism alone is really a valid category because people and churches would slide to one end or another, hyper or hypo.

It seems like a label without any real substance or meaning to it.

David Whiting

The point of the phrase "functional hyper-Calvinism" is this:

A hyper-Calvinist would be one who would say, "since God is sovereign and chooses people to be saved - why witness? God will save those he wants to save." That is hyper-Calvinism. No one actually would SAY that, but many LIVE that reality. Without a passion for lost people, without genuine efforts to reach others for Christ. So they are functioning as a hyper-Calvinist, even if they would never claim to be one.

It is referred to as hyper-Calvinism because it is the theology misapplied and misunderstood.

I DO think another way to say it is Dis-functional Calvinism. I think that is a pretty good description of many!

Erin Borja

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Mark

Thank you David that clears things up.

"So they are functioning as a hyper-Calvinist, even if they would never claim to be one." That is a much better way to say it than to use the term "functional hyper-Calvinism" which is misleading.

David Whiting

Erin -

That is great! I didn't know that! I love Tim Keller. He has a very unique gift to communicate the Gospel to a postmodern generation.

David Whiting

Mark -

You are probably right on the phrase "functional hyper-Calvinism." I think I'll use one of your suggestions - "dis-functional hyper-Calvinism."

Mark D.

As someone used to the vernacular of the social sciences I understood the use of the term "functional" in this manner. To someone not used to that field of study "functional" takes on quite a different meaning. It's tough but I find myself, in the interest of communication, going towards more of the common uses of words rather than using one that expresses a topic very precisely albeit to a more limited set of people. And then there are certain phrases (like "begging the question") that are adopted (in this case from philosophy) and are taking on a different meaning entirely. It's all a learning process to stay abreast of all of this fluid imprecision of our native tongue.

Dr. James Willingham

My ordaining pastor was a hyper-calvinist, a supralapsarian, and he would tell you so person to person and from the pulpit. And he was evangelistic. he preached a revival in a rural GA church in the 40s and had 100 professions of faith,. He once pleaded with a relative of mine to come to Christ until tears ran down the man' face. He was also the founder and first president of the American Race Track Chaplaincy. Cf. Dr.Ernest R. Campbell, Who's Who in Religion, 2nd edn. Chicago: Marquis, 1977. His Ph.D. was from Bob Jones U, and Dr. R.G. Lee thought so much of Dr. Campbell that he put it in his will that Dr. Campbell should preach his funeral. He had plenty of young men who responded to the call to serve Christ under his ministry.

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